Friday, September 15, 2006
BLOG LINKS and BLACK CLOTHES

Chain, Chain, Chain
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Most of the links on my sidebar I found through reading blogs and getting so excited about what they contained that I wanted more. I wanted to read everything this blogger wrote. Or at least check in on a regular basis.
Not all of them though.
Three or four were added when an enterprising blogger wrote and asked me to exchange links. I usually comply. Just seems like the polite thing to do.
Most often the link traders have no real interest in my blog; and once they acquire another link in their chain, they're never seen again.
One link was added after I got a rather irate email from a man wanting to know why I linked all his friends, but not him. I probably should have ignored the email. But I felt bad that I hurt his feelings so I apologized and added his link.
Once he got me to admit I was wrong, he never visited again either.
A few times I've linked blogs and frequently left comments on them because I loved their words, and they always said something that made me want to yell YES! Loudly!
But they never visited me back or left even a stone in the comment box.
Maybe they were too busy or had no interest in the stuff I wrote. But I started to feel like the high school outcast. I dressed all in black when I visited their blogs. I sulked and said nothing--no matter how fast their writing made my heart pound.Maybe I even stopped visiting altogether.
If they didn't want to hang out in the alley with me in my black clothes, I wouldn't hang out with them either. So there!
Sometimes I even took their links down and exorcised them altogether like an ex-boyfriend who never liked you as much as you liked him.
I know it's not very mature, and I only denied myself the pleasure of some fine writing, but that's what I did.
Sometimes I take people off my sidebar because they've stop blogging for a while or because I have so many links and I can never seem to find the one I'm looking for.
There are several blogs I visit regularly, but haven't linked to. Not because I like them less, but because I got in the habit of connecting to them through a mutual friend's sidebar or through their comments here.
My blog roll is so diverse that if we all got together for a party, it might be a weird gathering. I wouldn't know whether to serve beer or blue martinis or double expressos. Come to think of it my life is like that, too.
And I like it that way. In my alley, anyone can hang out--no matter what color your clothes are.
What was the last blog you linked to and why?
~ so laugh at the post-Luddite, she's come quite aways, considering~
So I add new treasures to my Favourites and visit every day - whether I comment or not.
xox
Bev
Cliff
Cliff
But to answer your question, I guess the most recent blog I added to my links page was F*R*L. And I have about eight more that I need to add soon, because I've been reading their feeds for at least two weeks and like their writing.
I try to keep up with every blogger I subscribe to through Bloglines (about 75 who update regularly). That doesn't always leave much time for commenting.
I don't respond to requests to swap links, and if I get an email whining about why I didn't or won't link to someone, I ignore it. It's impolite. And I don't view the request to swap as enterprising as much as it is opportunistic.
The way I keep track of all the blogs I want to read is via Bloglines. Most of the blogs I read are linked in my blog, but not all. In fact, some are in my blog that I don't keep track of.
My most recent add: http://bloglily.wordpress.com/
I love wearing black, but those clove cigs are just awful for you, though they smell really good.
And as for comments, that's a whole 'nuther pack of C4, isn't it? A few hours ago I posted something along the lines of the format you follow here. (just hoping I can pull it off with a modicum of the grace and style you do it with :)
This blog stuff . . . it's the great frontier of writing in a lot of ways . . .
I've also moved my blogroll from my sidebar to a separate page, which also renders it less "important." I'm kind of tired of the whole blogroll concept, you know? I want to read who I want to read and not think too hard about it. :P
Sometimes when I read posts I don't have a comment - but have enjoyed reading. It is a tricky business indeed. As you know, I have just been whining about "lack of attention" recently. Most of the time I don't much care if I don't receive any comments. It seems to depend on my mood or other life happenings outside of the blog.
It would be easier just not to allow comments. Then that tension would be gone! But then, would it be a blog?
Come to think of it, I've been wearing black for a long time. Am looking for colors lately.
Smiles.
The last link I added was Susan Henderson's new blog, Litpark. Her post on Friday was especially amazing, if anyone hasn't seen it.
I know I need to be better about commenting. I don't know why I'm so uptight about it -- I find it very hard to figure out what I want to say. I worry about being redundant or boring -- or trying to be witty but coming off as a nitwit. Not to mention the fear of typos.
Which all makes me feel like the back alley girl in black, but for different reasons, I guess.
Okay, now I just want to go hug my dog.
On a lighter note, you should visit me. I might suck at comments, but I did do a nice write-up on you and THE LIAR'S DIARY.
/always a fan, even when I'm frozen in OCD comment Hell
gulnaz: Do you have any idea how happy I am to see you around here again?
r: Those are two good blogs.
bernita: I do the same thing. I access lots of blogs through my favorites list. It's easier, and it's usually part of the transition of getting them onto my blogroll.
bev: So happy you're back. You've been missed!
cliff: It's hard not to track your own popularity with site meter--which would certainly be worth a post in itself. Site meter obsession. But in the end, you are right: You just open your mouth like the little bird in the photo and sing!
dave: Yours is clearly a much healthier attitude. Though I have occasionally linked through a sense of reciprical etiquette, those connections don't usually last long. All my current links are there because:
1. I admire the writing.
2. The blog provides important information about a common interest.
3. I like the person who comes through in the blog.
Usually, it's a combination of all three.
As far as comments go, the deeper one goes into blogland, and the more connections one makes, the more impossible it becomes to comment on every post that moves, challenges, inspires or teaches.
I try to leave something behind on my favorite blogs at least once a month to let them I'm reading and I appreciate what they do.
I realize however that not everyone comments, and I'm very grateful for any reader who invests their limited time in my ramblings--whether they ever leave a comment or not.
Kathryn and SFP: Before I respond, I want to check out the links you left. You both usually have some very worthwhile recommendations.
zhoen: Oh, but the clove cigarettes are the best part! And of course, part of the glamour of rebellion is the self-destructive element.
kate: It's funny you used the word "tribe" because that was in my mind when I wrote the post. I recently read that a "healthy" person has about 150 people in their tribe or loose social network. It was a particularly interesting statistic to me because it's also the average number of guests at the weddings I work. But i guess that, too, is fodder for another post...
diana: As one who's found a number of my favorite blogs through your sidebar, I admire your taste and discrimination. And I also agree that the longer you do this, the more you just want to read things you enjoy, and get away from the cliquish elements of it all.
More later because I want to do these great comments justice, and right now I need to eat lunch...
The main reason that I have links on my sidebar is for my use. The places that I have links to I want visit easily and often. There are lots of other places I visit that I just have not gotten around to building the links. The largest group of people that come to my blog have googled "How to Eat Pho". It is a post I put up last year and is a kind of poem about how to eat the most well-known Vietnamese soup...Pho.
Sometimes I link, not because the blogger is a fabulous writer (yet), but because the writing is heartfelt and honest - and I know the person needs to be read and encouraged to continue writing. But I most often link to people who are terrific writers. It gives me something to aspire to...
Sometimes it's photos or digital art that draw me.
I don't always agree, politically or philosophically with everyone I link to - but then who am I to demand everyone believe as I do?
I read at all the sites I link to quite regularly and try to comment, even if it's brief or just a stone left behind. It matters to all of us, I think, to know we're read. I know it did to me, back at the beginning when I wrote a piece saying I might as well be talking to the water in my toilet bowl - and an actual intelligent human being (as opposed to an ad-bot)left a great comment.
Still matters. Although I can't imagine stopping even if the comments did.
But I think (having also realized belatedly that I forgot to answer your question) that the last blog I linked to was Bloglily, like Susan. Definitely check her out!
This is a great question. I'm going to read what others had to say.
paris: The first thing I saw on your blog were the photographs of your apartment. The colors and the textures drew me in, but of course it was the writing that kept me there.
lorna: "I blog because I am. And scratching on tablets with sharp stones is out." I've never heard it explained better!
robin: I think litpark might be my most recent link, too. A very interesting place to play, for sure.
You made me laugh out loud with your "OCD comment hell" reference. I often feel that I'm neither as witty or wise as previous commenters on certain blogs--or the blogger herself. You included! (But usually I just go ahead and say something dumb anyway. Maybe I could use a little comment OCD.)
Thanks again for the kind mention of my book.
(A very interesting discussion, but it's 1:30 a.m. and even us insomniacs have to sleep. More tomorrow.)
I hope the audio recording of LIAR'S DIARY is going well. Have you mentioned who's reading it?
Inquiring minds . . .
i never wear any clothes when i'm blogging :)
(if you've ever been to scotland you'll know i'm joking)
like you i get various guilty or embarrassed feelings at times
but i enjoy blogging
i enjoy reading the words of others
sharing ideas and pictures
(real and figurative)
The first week that the public site was up, I received a comment (I was thrilled!) which included a request to exchange links. I went to the site to check it out... but, to paraphrase B.B. King, the thrill was gone.
This guy had a political site and after reading through it for awhile, I couldn't figure why he thought my site and his were -- for lack of a better word -- compatible. Except that, as I understand it, the more people that link to your site, the higher your site climbs in the search engines. How that really helps, I don't understand -- but I didn't want to play that game. I didn't link to his site.
At present I feel rather proprietary about links: I don't want to link to anyone I don't want to read. It's like inviting a guest into my home and showing the guest my collections: The guest may not share my taste, but that's not embarrassing for me; it may be a starting point for discussion with my guest. It may be something that my guest and I don't discuss again.
On the other hand, I do want mutual links. It's probably an ego thing -- maybe that's another "high school" aspect of blogging: Some of your commenters have pointed out the awkwardness of asking for links. Maybe it's not the same as being turned down for a dance.... I was surprised, though, to see that one of your commenters found it a breach of etiquette to even ask.
But the point is there are a number of blogs I read -- like this one -- where no one's asked to link, but that I bookmark and visit regularly.
Here's the part I don't get: RSS feeds? Bloglines? How the heck am I ever going to figure all of this stuff out?
Indeed, I feel the same. Or used to rather, before my nearly two motnhs ordeal and following disapearance.
I can't remember what was the last site I linked to. Why? Probably because I liked the site. (I'm not as nice as you are, btw, and definitely don't automatically link when asked).
I like your weird alley and am very happy to add to its colorfullness (?), assuming I'm a little colorful, that is :)
I'm every bit as immature, Patry. But you already knew that.
GREAT post!
xo,
Tish Cohen
Susan: You and Diana are right. Bloglily is a delight. (No rhyming intended.)
alexandra: Clique is exactly the right word. Summons up the high school angst I'm talking about.
p.s. I think you're a very thoughtful commenter already.
fred: Same reason I put up links: it reminds me to check out my favorites on a regular basis and makes it easy to do so. But since I also follow links from other blogs, I'm aware that it is also a form of recommedation. No wonder people google you looking for info about Pho. We had a Vietnamese chef at the place where I work, and everything he made was amazing.
lj: Heartfelt and honest carry a lot of weight with me, too. In some way, every blog is a story or a map of the blogger's inner life--sometimes a very clear and open map and sometimes a sly, invisible one. I return to my favorite blogs because I want to know what happened next.
steve: There's a lot to be said for keeping the roll small and manageable, though I obviously can't resist adding to mine on a weekly basis. I'm proud to be on your sidebar, too. You don't post frequently, but every time you do, it's worth reading.
dale: Your party analogy made me laugh out loud. I'm afraid I'm the kind of person who would immediately stand up on a chair and make the announcement...Any mental health secrets you might share?
diana: For me, that would depend on the blog. If it's a huge blog with thousands of readers, or a more informational blog, I'm not expecting any recipricocity. I, too, have commented and linked to blogs like that for years. But if the blog is a community where everyone is talking to each other and not to me, then I might be tempted to light up my clove cigarette (to use zhoen's great image) and slink away into the night.
Colleen: "A blind date that didn't work out". I like that one. I also think your ratios are similar to mine. I'm a fairly impulsive linker, and then once it's up, unless the blogger goes on hiatus or writes something I find offensive (which happened just last week, actually) I'm reluctant to take it down.
todd: I am very attached to my links. They're a convenient way to check on my favorites. But I also use the comment box, and my favorites list. In many ways, you are the truly unencumbered blogger.
tamar: Deep red and cornflower blue are my favorites, but I hear that people who surround themselves with lime green live happier lives.
robin: An actress named Marie Caliendo is reading it. She has done a lot of books for Brilliance, and if you're curious you can hear a sample of her reading on their website. Thanks for asking!
floots: Is there a ban on naked blogging in Scotland? Such unfairness! (And all this time I thought you were in England.)
curmudgeon: Yes, I guess that search engine placement has a lot to do with it. One blogger seemed to have sent requests to everyone in the blogosphere to exchange links (everyone I read, at least, which is a highly diverse group.) And because he has a very fine blog, he was quite successful.
melly: You are a bright red poppy! The alley just wasn't the same without you.
tish! So happy to see you here keeping me informed about the new black as usual. (And just when I was getting used to the old black!)
I'm not totally sure what was the last blog I linked to. But I know the one I'm going to link to next. Visited Debutantes today and it looked great!
lj:
steve:
dale:
diana:
floots:
curmudgeon:
colleen:
todd:
Found you via Via Negativa, Dave's blog, and had a really nice "I resemble that remark" chortle reading this post.
I link for tons of reasons strong and weak -- admiration for someone's work, amusement at their (more or less witty) audacity, a blush at their comments on mine -- but mostly because it makes a morning "stroll" easier for me, and it gives random folks a node by which to find each other.
What blog have I linked to last, and why?
Hard to say for sure (I get confused at times) but I think it may be Mise's blog.
I found the variety of his posts interesting, and his moment in life -- Irish living in the U.A.E. -- interesting as well.
I have links to folks who'd be the loud wake-the-neighbors guests at the party, some who'd enjoy the diversity and chat with a tumbler in hand, some who'd be wandering out back looking for a quiet room and a decent book to read while hiding, and a few who'd have left early to (a) wander off onto some backwoods trail or (b) get back to their studio or (c) blog about the party and flirt online.
A pretty motely crew indeed -- but an interesting mix.
I also stopped updating my blogrolls after a month or two, mostly because of lack of time. I did have people on there that I lost interest in reading and who didn't ever comment reciprocally, and so I took them off. And then I just stopped adding people. I suppose I should add them, but I think my focus is writing and reading and ideas, not feeding into a kind of cliquey high school atmosphere, which I sense is indeed a large part of the blog world.
Also, when I first started, I didn't know the etiquette, so I didn't ask people if I could link to them, I just did. Now, knowing the etiquette, I think I avoid adding people to my blogroll because I don't want to have to email them and ask. And I would NEVER ask someone to link to me. I second Dale's party comment!
For me, reciprocity is what it's all come down to. I've blogged on various sites for some years, spending hours each day seriously and closely reading and commenting on posts while my own writing languished or was responded to not at all or in ways that clearly indicated the person hadn't really read the post but only the other comments perhaps.
I'm interested in the reciprocal relationship, in real life and in blogs. I don't mind linking to anyone, but it's unlikely I'll read them more than cursorily if they don't drop by once in a while. And, in a way, I'm glad my group of commenters is small. It's more intense that way, it's easier to put yourself more fully into a response.
I'd say that some of the relationships I've developed in this medium are among the most important in my life, and yet it's unlikely I'll never meet these people. Comaraderie, support, critique, mutual admiration and respect, sharing, all of such value!
On my blog I only link to my very favorites and I read a few more in addition through my RSS feeder. That's enough because I don't really have time for more.
As far as commenting is concerned, these days I only do so when I feel I have something to say, or if a post really moves me or makes me laugh out loud. I equally appreciate a similar sentiment in comments left on my blog, preferring quality over quantity.
What I admire about you is that you comment on people's comments! It's a nice touch actually and yours is the only blog where I go back to check the comments.
I have read your blog, however, on a fairly regular basis--usually following a link from the comments you've left on Dale's blog or elsewhere. From now on, I'll make more of an effort to let you know I've been there.
lori: I love chortlers! And I love long comments--particularly ones as colorful and insightful as yours. If you ever do have that party, I hope I'm invited. It sounds like my kind of crowd.
brenda: This certainly has turned into an interesting discussion--and about far more than the original topic. It's made me realize there are two kinds of blogs--the first which
disseminates information or stories or art rather like a self-published magazine--without particularly inviting or caring about a response, and the other kind, which is all about relationships and community. Once a blog becomes a community, then the recipricocity and respect that you mention enters the picture.
kirsten: Now you've aroused my curiosity--which wins? The blogosphere or real life. (In my life, all too often, it's the computer!)
I like hearing the differing attitudes toward comments. Reminds me of the dichotomy between dog people and cat people. We dog people crave attention of any kind, while a cat person (as you and Brenda seem to be) prefers to wait for a quality stroking from their human of choice.
I also don't take much that happens online personally. I have a life offline, and so do most other people, and though the life of the mind is big for lots of us, real life has to be bigger. I have also discovered that lots and lots of people are not who they say they are, and only realized recently that lots more don't even surf, post or comment while sober. (I don't know how they manage -- well, poorly, usually -- or why they bother. I can't even read or type when I'm tired. Geez.) You can drive yourself nuts worrying about the opinions of masked strangers. Who needs it?
That said, I do make a point of linking to blogs I love. It's not so much that I want to pat the writers on the head, 'cause (a) I can and do just tell them I love their stuff directly when that's the case, and (b) for the reasons outlined above, why should they care what I think? No, link lists are more for me about sharing the pleasure -- or in some cases the resource -- with others. If something makes me laugh out loud every day, I want to offer the same opportunity to others. If something changes the way I see the world every day, preferably grows my vision, yeah, same thing. Some people don't say much or talk about anything staggering, and aren't even particularly funny, but there's so much love where they are and they share it so clearly that I want to share it, too.
So, here are the last three blogs I added. I meant to do them all in the same day, but I was busy, distracted and tired in August. Still, I'm counting them all as "the last" because the intention to include them came about simultaneously.
your very own Mole of the comments (and not just because he said something nice about one of my own blog posts but because I really enjoy his writing and his eye, if that makes sense)
Toasted Suzy's Posted Musings because I think this Oklahoma teacher is funny, quirky, and a deeper thinker and sharper wit than you might expect from her blithe tone
Blue Lily, who is incisively intellectual and whose blog, from the quote in the title bar all the way down to the comments on each post, has grown my consciousness on all kinds of issues more than I ever suspected it needed to grow (as I told her when she tagged me for a meme).
I know the statistics on my blog usually show the number of visitors is anywhere from 5 to TEN times the number of people who actually comment; and I always wonder 'Did they hate it, or me - Or did it just leave them cold?' And so I should be better about this myself. I love your blog, and I'll try to be better about commenting (sometimes I feel shy; sometimes I'm just in a hurry - but I always enjoy reading it!)
This post, and the response it triggered has been very illuminating--and I've found so many interesting new places to visit.
Bloglily: Moi? I'm blushing...Thank you for that, and for your kind words. And yes, welcome to the party! The drink tray will be coming around soon.
tinker: I'm very much the same. I read and enjoy lots of great things without leaving a comment--sometimes because the other commenters are so incredibly witty (Jonny B's Secret Diary, for one.) Other times because the post says it all, and there's nothing I could add. Occasionally, I'll leave a brief one or two word sign that I've been there, but as I've learned here, there are some bloggers who'd prefer not to get those. They want a thoughtful response or none at all. It's interesting...And I wouldn't worry about having a blogroll. People will find you anyway because you always make the trip worthwhile.
Interesting and a little sad that your traffic goes down when you don't comment frequently. But sometimes, I think people forget to visit and a comment spurs their memory.
Anyway, it seems like you have a healthy attitude about it all. You blog because you are, as Lorna said above. Who cares what table you're sitting at in the cafeteria, as long as you're getting fed, right?
robert: A good philosophy--in life as well as in blogworld.
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